The Pajama Party
We’ve been promising something special this week starting today and – today’s the day. It might not come as a surprise to some of you who drop by and visit that when I get passionate about something, I tend to go a bit overboard.:) The reason is I’ve enjoyed it so much I just want everyone to enjoy it too. I don’t think there will be any raised eyebrows when I say my latest one is the British series North and South. I started hearing about it on the
So one Friday night after trying to figure out what IM to use and with the help of “The Sidekick” we connected. I can’t speak for Katiebabs and Sula, but I was sitting nice and cozy in my jammies with a nice cold beer and settled down for what really felt like a cyberspace pajama party.
So for the next three days, you get to see into our North and South Pajama Party discussion. Part one is here with me posting. Part two is at Sula’s blog and Part three is here with Katiebabs posting.
Kristie(J): Question: So what makes N&S so special that it's grabbed our attention and won't let go? Either of you?
Kristie(J): (The sidekick - you can listen in 'cause we will be after you to watch this too)
Sula: Also I liked the social clashes (the working class, the nouveau riche, and the elite) and how some of those contrasts are exemplified in the characters of Thornton and Margaret. I mean, she is coming from a rather posh background...or at least some of her family are in the Ton, and now she has been brought down a level, and Thornton, who should be beneath her, is actually above her socially
Kristie(J): That's true - he is above her in some ways and beneath her in others. Like our wonderful Derek -he thinks he is unworthy of her. I do think he came from a better background originally - before his father blew it.
Sula: Yeah, but he had to work his way up from zero
Kristie(J): and yes though, he did raise himself and his family from the groundKatieBabs: I like the fact that Margaret is strong and outspoken and that is why John loves her
Sula: Yes, I liked that too. She's not afraid to speak her mind even though she's a little naive in some ways.
KatieBabs: She is very caring and understanding, well with John, he rubs her the wrong way though. John was a lot like Derek in most ways. The looks he gives Margaret are much like the ones Derek gives Sara. And whenever someone is critical of Margaret, he defends her.
KatieBabs: He reminds me also of Darcy from P&P
Sula: Yeah, in some ways he is like Darcy, but he's also more emotional I think
Kristie(J): I haven't seen that so I can't really compare them
KatieBabs: OMG you have been deprived!
Kristie(J): I did watch the latest version the other day and there really was no comparison
Sula: Yeah, you really do have to see that one
KatieBabs: No Colin Firth swimming in the lake?
Kristie(J): But after watching North and South I don't think I would care for it nearly as much. P&P that is
Kristie(J): Yes!! At the train station when he didn't have his cravat on
KatieBabs: When he took off his neck thingy, that was very sexy.
Sula: Don't you think his starched cravat says something about the way he holds himself? His chin is always up
Kristie(J): I do. It's like he is holding himself back
Sula: Yes, or being held back by convention
KatieBabs: The smoldering looks said it all
Sula: And yeah, the eyes tell the true story. Yowza!
Kristie(J): Another thing I noticed upon many viewings is how he covers his mouth when he is feeling strong emotions, like he is trying to hold himself in somehow. It really starts getting noticeable when you watch it a lot.
Sula: hmm, you're right
Kristie(J): He hardly ever smiles at all!
Sula: Did we all swoon over the part where he watches Margaret's carriage drive away and he says, "look back, look back at me"?
KatieBabs: OMG!! I was a puddle on the floor
KatieBabs: That scene... no words!
Kristie(J): Oh me too! You can just feel his pain and longing
Sula: He's so vulnerable
Kristie(J): But yet - he turned his back on Margaret first when she was open to something
Sula: Well...to be fair he did propose to her and got turned down
KatieBabs: He doesn't want to give his heart away
Kristie(J): One thing I'm puzzled over is why she turned him down so rudely
KatieBabs: His proposal was an angry one because he is angry for loving so deeply
Sula: Yeah, I thought she was pretty mean to him
Kristie(J): But I think she was almost afraid of his passion
Sula: Did you watch the extended proposal scene? The one thing that I got out of it was that she was angry that people were assuming that she was chasing after him because he was rich. Again, I think she was upset that SHE (who would normally have been the catch but is now poor because of her father's loss of fortune) is the one that now is looking like a gold digger
KatieBabs: Her parents IMO were so weak
Kristie(J): Yes they both were she was the leader of the family especially after her brother left
KatieBabs: John and Margaret are very strong. Their wills clashed and John's sister was weak and empty headed
Sula: Oh yeah, but funny
Kristie(J): His mother sure was strong though. She would make a frightening mother in law
Kristie(J): Almost too much though. Having two sons who have both been disappointed by women, I would never say I hate them. Especially if they told me they loved them.
KatieBabs: It is funny because John was close with his mother and Margaret was close with her father
Sula: Yes, well I think you can see where John gets his passionate nature from.
Kristie(J): And she did talk him out of going to see Margaret right away after he left the house when Margaret was hurt
KatieBabs: John's emotions were dark
Kristie(J): Yes - like the first time Margaret saw him. He beat that employee up pretty good. I imagine that did frighten Margaret quite a bit.
Sula: He has a lot weighing on him. He's responsible for the factory and for the jobs of everyone and for his mother and sister being kept in style
KatieBabs: But did you see how he changed towards the end of the movie. And when he found out about her brother, his face lit up?
Sula: Yes! "Her brother"
Kristie(J): I loved that part too! Like a light dawned
KatieBabs: His smile!
Sula: Love the change in his whole demeanor when he finds out that the guy she was embracing was her brother
Kristie(J): Oh yes - I like that part too. I thought it interesting that it was Higgins who told him
KatieBabs: Poor Higgins
Sula: Also the interactions between him (Thornton) and the kid
Kristie(J): And how gentle he is with the little boy
KatieBabs: I felt sad for Margaret's friend who had originally asked her to marry him
And we have a couple of other things planned for after including a Very Special Guest. So – hopefully you get curious and want to see what makes three grown women gush like teenagers. I'd also like to add another link. If you're curious, if you've seen North and South and can't get enough of it, there is a very good discussion also going on another blog - Lights, Camera...History, an excellent blog dedicated to historical books and the movies.
So - Stay Tuned. Part two of the North and South Pajama Party is up tomorrow at Sula's!'til later